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Another Quadruple Decrease

Posted by HelenEdith on October 27, 2013

I’ve now tried out Smariek’s quadruple decrease and discovered that it leaves a little eyelet each side of the central stitch when that is knitted. I didn’t want those eyelets, so a bit more experimentation was in order.

I needed a slightly left-leaning quad decrease to match to s1, k2tog, psso and here’s what I’ve come up with:

slip 2 stitches knitwise one at a time
pass first slipped stitch over second slipped stitch
slip the next stitch purlwise (this is the centre stitch)
pass the second stitch on the left needle over the first stitch on the left needle
slip the centre stitch on the right needle back to the left needle
leave the remaining stitch on the right needle (it is already turned)

Now k2tog, psso.

The stitch lies flat, unlike the rather lumpy s2, k3tog, p2sso

It also has the least obvious loop on the right of the stitch and the smallest gap between the stitch and its neighbours.


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A Quadruple Decrease

Posted by HelenEdith on October 27, 2013

This is a bit more complicated than Marianne Kinzel’s s2, k3tog, p2sso direction; and the way in which the decrease is done may result in a slight right lean, but I think that it results in the centre stitch going to the bottom, so here’s a link to D4 Quadruple Decrease by Smariek Knits where the method is described in detail. Basically, a stitch from each side of the centre stitch is passed over the centre stitch until only the centre stitch remains on the needle; and then that centre stitch is knitted in the normal way. The example given results in a right lean, but if the first stitch slipped over the centre stitch came from the left instead of the right (and then the next one came from the right, etc) I think a slight left lean might result instead.

I think it should also be possible to produce a quadruple decrease with the centre stitch on top by slipping stitches in order to gain access to stitches 4 and 5 and to slip 5 over 4; and to gain access to stitches 1 and 2 and slip 1 over 2; then put all of the remaining three loops back on the left needle, do s2 as if to k2tog, k1, p2sso.

I think I’ll give these a go on waste yarn and see what they look like before deciding whether to use Kinzel’s stitch or a variant of Smariek’s stitch.

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Knitting Double Decreases

Posted by HelenEdith on October 27, 2013

I’ve launched into Marianne Kinzel’s Daffodil Design. She uses some stitches which I was a bit doubtful over, but I’ve found a nice website which discusses double decreases, Double decreases and decreases from the purl side from Ariel’s craft journal, which has cleared up one of them, at least.

The symbol which I’m used to seeing for a centred double decrease is actually being used for a double decrease which is executed by doing slip 1, k2tog, psso. This results in the centre stitch of the three going to the bottom of the resulting stitch rather than coming to the top. It also gives the look of an inverted ‘V’, which sounds about right, as it’s being used at the top of a leaf. It also slants a little to the left, so you can’t describe it as being completely centred. Three stitches, from left to right, A-B-C will end up stacked from top to bottom as C-B-A.

The other symbol I’ve come across is a blocked-in triangle executed by slip 2, k3tog, p2sso. If I call the five stitches, from left to right, A-B-C-D-E then this decrease will result in a stack, from top to bottom, of E-D-A-B-C. Once again, the central stitch is ending up on the bottom of the stack, but I have a suspicion that this might lean quite heavily towards the left. Whether I will find anything about 5-into-1 decreases is something I don’t know, but I might find some time spent with a pair of knitting needles and some waste yarn is time better spent than a session in Google.

It looks like Daffodil Design is going to grind to a halt until I’ve worked out whether to go with Marianne Kinzel’s 50+ year old direction or whether there is something a bit more symmetrical to execute instead.

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